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Janice Fiamengo's avatar

Thank you for this eloquent statement. I've already seen the leftist media spinning it: he was a "divisive" figure, he was polarizing, and political violence has been on the increase "all across the ideological spectrum" (has it)? The truth is that Charlie Kirk was a centrist conservative who debated students on college campuses about mainstream issues like abortion and Communism with good grace and kindness. Anybody could take the mic who wanted to try to outdo Charlie with evidence and reason. He was a model of what useful political disagreement on hot-button issues can be like. Beyond the staggering loss of an important young political activist with a great career ahead of him, beyond the tragic death of a devoted father of two, it really hurts that so many progressives will be gladdened by the news and will feel morally righteous in laughing about it or pressing home why he deserved it.

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Meghan Murphy's avatar

Thank you for your words also. I am disgusted and frankly afraid at what has become of the left. Imagine thinking open debate about ideas was so terrible a man deserved to die. RIP Charlie.

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JGP's avatar

People who don’t know any history are ignorant of the fact that the left, led by Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, Castro, Ceaucescu, and Hitler (NAZI means National SOCIALISM after all) among all too many others killed some 200 million people with their submoronic, vicious ideology.

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Yvette N's avatar

Thank you. I, too, am horrified at what the left has become. Among many other things, Charlie Kirk modeled what ethical, logical debate looks like to millions of youth who have no such model in the school system. He invited young men to grow up and get their priorities straight, and reminded students that college is a scam.

I saw him speak twice last year - in Phoenix at AmericaFest last December and a month ago in Albuquerque. In Albuquerque, the venue was a full house, and the protesters were vocal but at a safe distance.

We've been seeing who people really are as they respond to his assassination. Like the Covid responses, we're seeing what people are made of.

See you at the Genspect conference!

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Kevin Oberg's avatar

Well said.

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Beeswax's avatar

I’m waiting for Bernie Sanders and his little buddy, Zohran Mamdani, to denounce this vicious, political murder. As progressives who love Our Democracy, shouldn’t they be the first to speak out against censorship and violence?

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Beeswax's avatar

Beeswax here, posting a correction:

I received a response from a reader informing me that, in fact, both Sanders and Mamdani did speak out and denounced the violence.

I found Sanders' excellent remarks here:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2025/09/11/bernie_sanders_political_violence_is_cowardice_it_means_you_cannot_convince_people_that_your_ideas_are_correct.html

and Mamdani's here: https://townhall.com//tipsheet/amy-curtis/2025/09/11/mamdani-once-censored-kirk-from-speaking-in-his-district-n2663143

Note that there's a "wrinkle" in his article that puts the lie to his belief in free speech.

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katansi's avatar

"Charlie Kirk was a good and intelligent man who aimed to have open, free debate. And he was killed for doing so."

They murdered the conservative easter bunny on camera. Trump's an asshole. I know this because I'm an asshole and I'm rude as shit and people don't like me for it. Fine, whatever. I follow two topics very closely that means I've watched a lot of Charlie Kirk contact and for whatever disagreements I had with his personal viewpoints he was regularly insulted, screamed at, and threatened on camera and SURROUNDED by witnesses and the meanest I ever saw him be was a little sarcastic in response to the other person being a total psycho. On my best days I'm telling people to go fuck a cactus when they cut me off in traffic and I don't think Kirk even swore when they were telling them they hoped he died. If that's the guy you think was the right target you are dangerously insane. He was like a super nice dorky kid.

Some people are already saying this is a false flag, or inside job, and it doesn't even matter. The reaction from many "normal" people on the left has been horrific. People at a lot of different levels of authority and in different "caring" occupations that are celebrating this so it doesn't matter if it's a conspiracy. People agreeing with assassination for words they don't like are proving that it is completely believable that a violent leftist activist is fully capable and likely to murder someone for speaking especially since plenty of lesser assaults and less prominent murders have already happened. False flags aren't really all that necessary in the context of "it was already happening."

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Meghan Murphy's avatar

Agree agree. The reaction from the left is everything. He was a nice guy—like you say, way nicer than me, and they are twisting themselves into knots trying to justify it. It's so disgusting.

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Rachael Dartnell's avatar

I’m reeling. I listened to Charlie regularly - it was a pleasure to listen to someone so open, so smart, and so willing for others to speak so he could engage in honest debate. It feels surreal that this is the world we are in, where men like him are killed because someone disagrees with them. This hits so close to home, maybe because of all the threats we would get holding women’s events, or maybe because we were the target of so much name calling and abuse online as soon as we indicated we knew people can’t change sex.

It feels seismic. Scrolling through X today, all of that hate, reels and reels of it. I just keep wondering how we got here. How easily we forget.

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Joe Santucci's avatar

Here, here. Well said,

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Kim J's avatar

Charlie Kirk was certainly a threat to the establishment (by which I define as any entity that promotes division as a way to cover up their own indiscretions). He coached people to question everything they are told, and not to take anything at face value.

And so, what really worries me now is the increasing number of people who turns towards AI programs for a quick summary of complex issues. ChatGPT was exposed for using Wikipedia as it's primary source, and we all know what a complete and utter dumpster fire it is. Charlie's Wiki page claims he promoted Covid conspiracy theories (things us heretics know to be true. The shot was NOT safe and effective, plus many more), and he promoted the 'white replacement theory'. It's just horse shit.

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