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So I have not commented on this site for a long time. I am catching up here. Meghan thanks for speaking, plain and true. You say it like it is.

Two nights ago I was accused by my adult son to be a right-wing bigot, as we were discussing the very topic you speak to today. I also say, wait, watch, think, and ask, what would you do under those miserable circumstance, is it okay to break the law, is it really that people who enforce the law are nazis, etc. Turns out my adult daughers feel the same way as my son, one daughter going so far as to say the mother who raised her is dead.

Needless to see I reeled for a few hours. Mothers are not supposed to express strong opinions. Mothers, even the old ones like me, are supposed to be in histrionics because a man was shot, as was a woman (all seen as brave innocents, not I must add, is it 'good' to shoot people down in the streets). My son was outraged that I was not, and was waiting instead to form a more clear opionion based on the facts as they emerged.

Then I listened to Dave Rubin, who calmly spoke to own thoughts on this matter. He said that we all appear to be watching two movies, although they are the same one, and coming away with an entirely different point of view as are those who are watching with different eyes. I concur. My family is a perfect example, a Canadian family, same movie, different understanding, as are my coworkers. One said this morning "we can no longer go to the states as we will die there." All hearing her agreed. I wanted to reply, 'only if you go armed, are violent yourself and would like to incite more violence, and have every intention of disobying the law to protect the criminal illegals.'

The divide that formed in Canada and also around the world over the 'c' shots and dogma, apply also to the ideological structures. Canada is dogma country, and if you don't comply, what out.

Also if you are an old or older woman who is supposed to be 'nice' because female, our families are or could be disusted with us, rather than proud of a grandma and mother who thinks first and talks after.

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"Maybe it was the border Biden left wide open for a number of years." This has been a problem for the past forty years in the US, through both Republican and Democratic administrations. I lived in Canada for seven years. Yes, lots of immigrants there, but next-to-no illegal immigration. At the same time, no ICE-type raids. Why? They are unnecessary. There is an off-the-books economy in the US that doesn't exist in places like Canada. In the US -- lots more cash wages/payments going on. The reason the US is a magnet for illegal immigration is that the US does not enforce laws about proper documentation for hiring. Illegal immigrants are hired by many industries, and it's all done with a wink and a smile from government officials. Trump talks a big game but he is not truly serious. Why hasn't he pushed for national E-Verify? The US is the only developed country in the world that is de facto open borders. It's because that is what business owners want. It puts a download pressure on wages. Trump is not serious about doing anything about it. He loves cheap labor as much as Wall Street does.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/05/trump-e-verify-fox-news-makes-it-too-hard-to-hire-the-undocumented.html

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